He was a fundamentalist, right? Excellent insight, Jasmine! He needs grace and so does Lokihe relies heavy on his ability to observe and pay attention to details. Which is why he ends up taking his own life. Except, Keller uses wood and his carpentry skills to imprison and torture Alex. And just to put a bow on it, when Grace brings Anna to see Loki, a similar silence occurs. He was parked outside of his old house in the camper when the girls came by and got in the camper with him. I just noticed something interesting. Let an old woman finish injection: He walked into the room after she had started the injection. Thanks for the analysis. It is the key that ties the entire movie together. This is Thesecret1070. Which led to Kellers survival mindset. Something like that. Loki is on team giant and kills the god Heimdall. Take revenge on God for killing her son by kidnapping other people's children, Kang the Conqueror (Marvel Cinematic Universe). When we first meet Holly, she tells Loki that her husband has been gone for 5 years. Also isnt the name Keller, too close to killer? But if the kid WAS named Alex, I think Barry/Alex is saying that when he was a kid, the Joneses lured him to their house by asking if Barry wanted to play with their son. As mentioned before, we have a character named Grace. Physical imprisonment: Holly keeping the two girls (then Keller) captive. Ive had that happen and few times and it sticks with you. Theyre prisoners, right? What if he was like the sex offender priest, who thought no one would believe him if he spoke out, so the priest thought that only HE could stop Hollys husband the way that he did! Another similar piece of the puzzle which is teased to us In addition to this part of her routine was the large bottles of mysterious drink; addressed when keller is held at gunpoint and made to drink a third of the bottle. Other people feel nervous in the silence and start saying stuff just to fill it. I loved a lot of the explanations here, hit the nail on the head. Thank you for explaining this! Then brought him home and he kept waiting for Alex to come play. But the CSI experts would surely have noticed if the van had been cleaned very recently, and that small detail would have been suspicious as well. The other maze to be found would be that; Holly drugs her victims with a concoction that may have LSD or similarthe fbi book refers to this and she does as well, when talking to and then forcing Keller to drink. Also loved seeing ppl comment on this masterpiece of a movie from so long ago. Even without dogs, in all the time spent around the aunts house no one noticed there were tracks behind an old supposedly non-functioning car? One interesting thing Ive noticed is that usually the highest quality movies find a way to distill their themes or narrative in the opening shot/scene. In a sense, this is what Holly Jones and her husband carries on tooby killing children. Motifs are repeating elements in a movie, which can be anything, from physical objects, to dialogue, to shots, to music, to concepts. It made me wonder if he also was carrying around some past trauma. And part of Taylors thing is recreating the maze. We see how he buries the mannequin in his yard. Its pretty well-known that the victims of abuse are prone to abusing others. Stick a piece over your mouth and see how ridiculously easy it is to open your mouth. The kidnapping stunted both young men. Theyre kind of like ghost characters, director Denis Villeneuve said of the recurring motif of trees in the film; as we said earlier, like silent witnesses to the various violent crimes in the movie. Its a little of everything. He draws mazes on walls. Thanks! While Kellers actions was clearly out of line especially considering that he was basically talking to someone who is practically a child (mentally), what I am concerned about is if Keller should be punished severely for his actions given what he has knows about Alex from being sure that Alex knows the location of his daughter from singing their song and he told him in the parking lot, along side with harming the dog, he had a very strong case of suspecting him and the police didnt seem to have made enough effort to dig more after him and seem to question Kellers sanity. 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On Friday, Briere was charged with abducting, murdering and dismembering 10-year-old Holly Jones (shown), some of whose body parts were found May 13 in two pieces of luggage in water in two . With his English language debut, Villeneuve created a story layered with suspense, thrill, and excitement. It is of course not completely impossible because Holly could have cleaned the van thoroughly. Or in the movie Black Swan, a theme is duality, so we often see the main character, Nina, reflected in mirrors or windows. I also think that Loki foreshadowing his abuse and imprisonment and the boys school that the father ran is another situation that contributes to the prisoners idea. 2 weeks? I like your explanation of why Keller was probably saved but when I watched, I assumed he wasnt because he slid down too far and lost. Which creates that idea of the loop. People need people and people need grace. Doesnt every house have duct tape in it? Keller keeps Alex in a box thats similar to a confessional box. Their pain turns to anger at God, as such tragedy must have been His will. Maybe the newspaper article was premature (but then why show it)? To talk about Prisoners, it helps if we un-maze the story by laying out its key events in chronological order. I felt he was trapped moreso in the house by the news vans crowding round. If Keller could figure it out, it was just a matter of time before Loki did too. It references Loki killing Holly as detective David Loki. Which is, all in all, pretty fitting. I could see something like him initially being reunited but then the DA drawing up charges later. We saw him hurt the dog. And yes, I love the juxtaposition of David Lokis name. Theres a moment in the movie where Loki is searching for clues in old newspapers and he founds a note of a man, a correctional officer, who commited suicide (allegedly) after his son was abducted. Thank you! I thank you all from the bottom of my heart. I assumed that it was Bob and he was referring to when he was captured by the police in the van at the rest stop. If he was, then he wouldnt have continuously lied to the police and Keller. Same with Loki. In Norse mythology, Lokis a big deal. Kendricks dad had always given Top Dawg extra biscuits on the house. So while Alex not confessing what happened to Keller could seem crazy, its in-line with how Prisoners shows other victims of abduction struggling to express themselves. Unbeknownst to him, Joy and Anna are in another room and Joy sees him/hears him. Holly's parents. Now imagine Taylor and Alex being there for years and years. Lokis fellow officer brought it up that the Invisible Man used an LSD/ketamine cocktail on the victims, as described by that book. Back in the 80s, Holly Jones and her husband are devout Christians. Does Loki discover Keller in the hole or not? And yes, it also reinforces the theme of imprisonment, because a maze can be, after all, a prison and almost every character in Prisoners is working through some kind of maze (physical, emotional, psychological, or spiritual). Alex is perfectly able to taunt with a cryptic, They didnt start crying till I left. He can drive, he can play with the girls, learn and sing their song, has the wherewithal to take them back to be tortured and killed, but is too traumatized by his past to say anything else? The girl saw him or heard him though he didnt see the girl. Alex's uncle left home a couple of years ago after a domestic dispute with his aunt. Hi Yuen, Holly Deane-Johns, 51, was subjected to the awful living conditions while serving time at Lardyao Women's Correctional Institution. How could the FBI agent wrote a book about the murderer and even have a maze picture in it if: a. no children was ever found (alive or not); b. the murderer was never found. Thanks for the thoughts. I prefer to believe Keller was found by Loki, his boss said he never lost a case. The soul.