MLS # EV23032625 The Ernie Maxwell Trail is functionally clear of icy snow, although a few minor patches remain, especially close to Humber Park. UPDATE Tuesday 3rd January 2023: Following another minor overnight snow storm our fourth in the past week Anabel and I briskly broke trail up Devils Slide to Saddle Junction early this morning. With another storm imminent tomorrow, I do not plan a thorough update until Wednesday 15th. San Jacinto Peak (10810 ft): 36-40 inches (winter max depth 45-48 inches), drifted >50 inches in places, Wellman Divide (9700 ft): 38 inches (45 inches), Annies Junction/PCT Mile 180.8 (9070 ft): 44 inches (48 inches), Long Valley (8600 ft): 20 inches (24 inches), Saddle Junction/PCT Mile 179 (8070 ft): 18 inches (22 inches), Devils Slide trailhead at Humber Park (6550 ft): 0-3 inches, partly melted by afternoon of 6th (6 inches), Idyllwild (at 5550 ft): <1.0 inch, largely melted by afternoon of 6th (4 inches). Snowshoes are dangerous due to the angle of the icy snow. Find 39 photos of the 71729 San Gorgonio Road home on Xome. Watch for trail junctions, dont just follow your feet without looking up. Effective 26th January 2023 the State Park closed the section of Skyline Trail that falls within its jurisdiction, above 5800 ft elevation, until further notice due to dangerous weather conditions. Approximately 200-250 people will be running on the Pacific Crest Trail south of Lake Hughes in Angeles National Forest on April 22, 2023. I had the pleasure of hiking the Fish Creek Trail on June 22nd. At the Peak on Sunday 1st January 2023 at 0830 the air temperature was 17.9F (-8C), with a windchill temperature of -2.3F (-19C), 100% relative humidity, and a sharp WSW wind sustained at 11 mph gusting to 21.1 mph. Reliable tracks are currently only known to be my posthole tracks from 15th for Devils Slide Trail through to San Jacinto Peak via the Wellman, Peak, and East Ridge trails, and then descending Deer Springs Trail. Although our perceptions may have been skewed by some extremely dry winters in the past decade, major snowfalls are not as rare as many current residents might think. Seven Pines Trail has no sign of any hiker traffic since the snow on 12th. Spikes tend to be most valuable for descending even when not needed for ascending. Currently, and as conditions change, spikes are strongly recommended for the foreseeable future everywhere above about 7000 ft. Minimum Impact Ethics; Wilderness Regulations; Forum; Trails. The Ernie Maxwell Trail is functionally clear of icy snow, although a few minor patches remain, especially close to Humber Park. They are not however required, depending upon your comfort level hiking on shallow variable snow, potentially mixed with slushy and icy patches. Deer Springs Trail has a broken track to follow all the way to San Jacinto Peak. The freeze level is currently at about 7500 ft and it has been periodically snowing gently above that elevation, with Long Valley (8600 ft) having added a few inches overnight, for a current total depth of about 24 inches. Must have crampons/and Alpine boots, trails are iced and very dangerous. On 15th I barebooted (i.e. The traversing slopes above Wellmans Divide (roughly 9800-10,500 ft) were extremely firm early in the morning and potentially treacherous. San Bernardino National Forest including the San Jacinto Ranger District is closed until at least 16 March 2023. We survey the trail system daily, with hikes via different routes to San Jacinto Peak several times per week, Tahquitz Peak and vicinity at least weekly, and many other trails on other days. Spikes are strongly recommended. UPDATE Thursday 15th December 2022: Early this morning I hiked to San Jacinto Peak from Humber via Devils Slide, Wellman and Peak trails. While snowfall accompanying the first of those storms may be light, perhaps 2-4 inches in Idyllwild and 4-6 inches in the high country, strong winds at the highest peaks are tentatively forecast to produce extremely cold windchill conditions, similar to 15th February (see below). After a relatively benign day, it started snowing gently at 1340, and has become steady with large wet flakes in the past hour or so. The 0.4 mile section of South Ridge Trail between Chinquapin Flat/PCT and Tahquitz Peak has a well-traveled and level track to follow through the slowly melting inch of patchy icy snow (photo below from 30th). The high country was above the weather most of the night, and added an inch of fresh snow at most, however there were 2.25 inches in Idyllwild, and also roughly the same fresh snow depth at Humber Park and Saddle Junction. Note that average depth is given; due to strong winds accompanying the storm there is extensive drifting, often particularly accumulating in the trails. The kiosk entrance gate is open during the daytime hours for parking up above at the trailhead. At San Jacinto Peak (10,810ft/3295m) on Thursday 24th November 2022 at 0810 the air temperature was 29.0F (-2C), with a windchill temperature of 5.7F (-15C), 16% relative humidity, and a severe NNW wind sustained at 25 mph gusting to 35.1 mph. Forum: Trail Conditions | San Gorgonio Wilderness Association For example, San Jacinto Peak received about 9 inches of fresh powder (on top of about 2-4 patchy inches of icy snow remaining from November) on Sunday 11th, with an additional inch falling on Monday 12th. Some hikers may continue to find spikes useful for some of the minor icy patches but they are no longer required. Even around the 10,000 ft peaks temperatures are expected to fluctuate either side of freezing for at least the first half of February, which will lead to freeze/thaw cycles and likely icy conditions in the mornings followed by soft, challenging snow in the afternoons. From the large paved parking area, the trail starts on the opposite side of the road across from the vault toilet. Moderate snow has continued for the past few hours at San Jacinto Peak, with a storm total so far of about 7.5 inches. On the morning of Monday 6th February I ascended San Jacinto Peak for the fifth time in the past two weeks, this time via the east side (Devils Slide, Wellman, Peak, and East Ridge trails), descending the same way. Generally considered a challenging route, it takes an average of 11 h 14 min to complete. UPDATE Wednesday 14th December 2022: Early this morning Anabel and I broke trail up Spitler Peak Trail to the PCT. Above Little Round Valley there are at least half-a-dozen tracks ascending toward San Jacinto Peak, none of which entirely accurately follow the established trail route. Spikes are recommended but not strictly essential depending upon your comfort level hiking on angled icy snow. Lightly-traveled snowshoe and/or posthole tracks radiate away from Saddle Junction around the meadow trail and south toward Chinquapin Flat, but I have not checked how accurately they follow established trail routes or how far they continue. The Caramba Trail from near Reeds Meadow through Laws Camp and on to Caramba, and the Cedar Trail from Willow Creek Trail to Laws, are described by the Forest Service as not maintained. At the Peak on Thursday 24th November 2022 at 0810 the air temperature was 29.0F (-2C), with a windchill temperature of 5.7F (-15C), 16% relative humidity, and a severe NNW wind sustained at 25 mph gusting to 35.1 mph. Rain started overnight in Idyllwild, and by late this afternoon (at 1550) totals 1.22 inch. By 1st February there was a somewhat meandering snowshoe track from Round Valley (and presumably Long Valley) up to San Jacinto Peak, ultimately using the East Ridge route from near Miller Peak, that generally followed lower angle terrain and avoided the traversing slopes of the Peak Trail. Obviously these depths are expected to change dramatically over the next few days. Roads 1n02 / 1n05 that go into Aspen Grove and Fish Creek are closed for the winter. I have typically postholed barebooting to 8900-9200 ft before putting on crampons. Favorite hiking regions include the San Gorgonio Wilderness, Eastern Sierras, Channel Islands and San Gabriel Mountains . Temperatures will be near or generally below seasonal for the next ten days at least. The next full update will likely be on the afternoon of 25th. When you apply for a permit, youll get a link to forms where you can report water info, hazards, and any other info including lost or found items. The storm sequence starts with a minor storm on the night of Tuesday 21st, which may only produce 2-3 inches of snow at all elevations, but accompanied by high winds and bitterly cold temperatures. At the Peak on Saturday 31st December 2022 at 1650 the air temperature was 24.9F (-4C), with a windchill temperature of 4.8F (-15C), 62% relative humidity, and a bitter WSW wind sustained at 18 mph gusting to 30.1 mph. She was driving on Interstate 10 (and had to concentrate on the road!) Vehicles not parked in these spaces may be ticketed and/or towed. Free shipping for many products! We have had an excellent start to 2023 regarding the water and snow situations in the San Jacinto mountains. San Gorgonio is the tallest mountain in Southern California, and a rite of passage for serious hikers in the area. The high-pressure, bright, sunny weather system in recent weeks has created icy conditions with no snow covering it." Conversely in places scouring by the wind means the depths are well below the average. I hope to provide more information on the high country situation on Sunday 26th, depending on conditions/weather. Marion Mountain Trail has a well-traveled snowshoe track to follow along its entire length. Currently only two major trail routes have been traveled and even those may become partially obscured by drifted snow and fresh icefall. On 13th, Idyllwild received 2.75 inches, and I measured five inches at San Jacinto Peak, with 3-4 inches at locations in between. Note that snow depth itself is rarely indicative of the difficulty (or otherwise) of hiking a particular track or trail. In the week since the last storm we have surveyed trails around Tahquitz Peak twice, plus South Ridge, Spitler Peak, and Marion Mountain trails, among others. Many hikers may find spikes are already useful, and will become increasingly so during and after this weekend with melting and compaction. With such mild storms this winter, it is interesting to speculate how much snow would currently be around the high peaks if air temperatures had been just a couple of degrees cooler. Even if its warm and sunny at lower elevations, its cold and icy in the wilderness. Conversely in some places scouring by the wind means the depths are well below the average. Following the twelfth storm system of this winter on 29th-30th January, temperatures have largely swung to well above seasonal, with melting underway at all elevations, but especially below 8000 ft. [Checked 18th January by Anne and Anabel. View more property details, sales history and Zestimate data on Zillow. UPDATE Tuesday 10th January: Another minor and relatively warm storm is passing through our mountains today. Days change quickly from pleasant to snow and ice. In the high country temperatures will be more like April or May, some 10-20F above seasonal, before finally cooling (but still remaining above average) in the last couple of days of the year. Spitler Peak Trail (last surveyed 18th November) is clear of snow. This trail will become significantly more treacherous as it undergoes freeze/thaw cycles and compaction over the next week or two. Weather conditions for different elevations in the San Gorgonio Wilderness are at: www.mountain-forecast.com/peaks/San-Gorgonio/forecasts/3505. The Vivian Creek trail is an artery used by hikers to reach the peak. At the Peak on Monday 30th January 2023 at 1110 the air temperature was 15.5F (-9C), with a windchill temperature of -0.4F (-18C), 98% relative humidity, and a light SSE wind sustained at 3 mph gusting to 8.4 mph. On Monday 13th I also postholed the entire hike, as I was able to ascend barebooting to about 9200 ft before putting on crampons. With storms accompanied by strong west winds, the slopes above about 9500 ft on the east flanks of San Jacinto and Jean peaks may develop a snow structure with minor to moderate avalanche risk by the weekend of 25th-26th (as last seen on these slopes in early 2017). Devils Slide Trail has a moderately traveled track to Saddle Junction. However the fresh powder is very fine and drifting heavily in the strong SW wind, and I had 2-3 inches in places in the upper Peak Trail. Additional moderate snowfall is tentatively forecast for 28th February-1st March. Comments Off on Updated El Dorado closure area. Snowshoes can be used for ascending the highest peaks, but with considerable caution. No tracks had made it as far as Chinquapin from Saddle Junction at that time. Even as melting proceeds steadily (details below), trails are very icy due to daily freeze/thaw cycles and compaction from hiker traffic, and spikes are recommended throughout the trail system above about 8000 ft (lower in places). Sadly at first light the precipitation turned to drizzle at all elevations on the western slope between (at least) Idyllwild and 8100 ft at Saddle Junction, and consequently the snow quality was deteriorating fast at mid elevations this morning. The first number is the current average total snow depth at that location followed in parentheses where known by the combined fresh snowfall from the two minor storms on 13th-14th February. Altitudes are approximate. Three significant trees are now down across the trail, including two major hazards (one new in gale force winds on 26th January) that are not easy to hike around both roughly halfway along the trail. It's 7.8 miles (Gary Suttle's book lists it as 8.4 miles) with almost 5,500 feet in elevation gain. Early on cold mornings, the icy snow is grippy, and I did not find spikes necessary on 5th. If you have found this Report useful, please consider using this link to the Donate page. The system was cooler in the early hours of Friday morning, with a dusting of snow to 6000 ft and a covering of icy sleet below that in Idyllwild. It was closed Wednesday both because of hazardous conditions and because rescuers did not want hikers disturbing any footprints or other clues that might have been left by Kumm. The advice above should be used with this in mind, and if in any doubt carry the necessary traction devices that you will be most comfortable using. The story so far.. A minor storm on the night of Tuesday 21st (sixteenth storm of the winter) produced little snow just an inch in Idyllwild but severe cold and severe winds, erasing all tracks with wild drifting. View 18632 Deer Trail Rd, Banning, CA 92220 property records for FREE including property ownership, deeds, mortgages, titles & sales history, current & historic tax assessments, legal, parcel & structure description, land use, zoning & more. An excellent track is easy to follow to Little Round Valley. Note however that snow depth is rarely indicative of the ease (or otherwise) of hiking a given trail. These concerns may steadily increase over the next few weeks with (eventually) temperatures fluctuating either side of freezing, seasonally stronger insolation, and highly variable snowmelt. Long Valley (8600 ft) has received about 1.0 inch fresh snow this morning. Eventually with compaction of the trails caused by increasing hiker traffic and freeze/thaw cycles snowshoes may steadily become less useful, however they will remain valuable for off-trail travel in the high country well into February. These icy slopes are notoriously treacherous. Such unseasonably warm temperatures led to rapid snow melt everywhere, despite the low sun angle at this time of year, while in many areas freeze/thaw cycles have resulted in icy trails and roads especially in the early mornings. March 2 - Marion Mountain to San Jacinto and return same route. He has just reported storm snow totals of 5-6 inches at Wellman Divide (9700 ft) and four inches in both Round and Long valleys from his descending hike. Looking for partner(s) for these local mountaineering day-trips. Spikes are currently usefulthroughout the trail system above about 6000 ft, possibly lower in places on cold (icy) mornings. IMPORTANT UPDATE Thursday 26th January 2023: The State Park has announced that Skyline Trail is closed with immediate effect due to hazardous conditions above the State Park boundary (5800 ft elevation). Cold clouds in the high country produced thick rime on the trees above about 10,200 ft elevation on 1st December (photo from 2nd below) but otherwise no meaningful precipitation. Schedule a showing for 251 Broadriver Trail in Beaumont, CA. It is clear, based on information on the PCTA website closures page (linked here), that these closures will dramatically and negatively impact early season PCT hikers. This is also the parking area for the Big Falls Trailhead. If there are Road Closed signs further down as was often the case last winter especially at weekends and holiday periods then those nine spaces are also unavailable for legal parking. They are not currently recommended for moderate angle slopes above 9000 ft that have challenging ice underlying shallow powder. Note that average depth is given; due to strong winds there has been drifting, often particularly accumulating in the trails. Darren Goodman of the sheriff's search-and-rescue team. Temperatures will be below freezing (max 28F on Mon night, min 25F on Wed morning). Turn around take a look, establish points of reference, a mountain top you can see or a particular rock formation, that will take you home. Snowshoes are likely to become useful (even essential in early January), at least above about 9000 ft, if there is significant snowfall during the coming week or so as forecast. Snowshoes will remain valuable anywhere off trail above about 8000 ft for the foreseeable future. The traversing slopes above Wellmans Divide were very firm and relatively tricky in snowshoes, and some hikers may prefer to use spikes (or probably crampons) plus an ice axe above about 9800 ft. As I descended past Saddle Junction I was surprised not to see any other tracks as of early afternoon on Friday 6th, which I mention only because of the lack of broken trails this indicates. Snow at all elevations will become increasingly firm and icy following multiple freeze-thaw cycles, and compaction by increasing hiker traffic in places, and I cannot overemphasize the importance of having both appropriate equipment and the right skill set for the terrain. Conditions are currently excellent for avalanches on specific terrain in the San Jacinto high country, as proven below. After an interesting month of weather, the remainder of January into February is forecast to be somewhat more settled. Be prepared for trails above about 8000 ft (perhaps lower in places) completely or largely obscured by moderate to deep snow; very cautious navigation is strongly recommended everywhere. However the remaining snow patches are icy in the morning. Snow cover is shallow up to about 7000 ft, but relatively heavy above 8000 ft. I measured 15 inches of snow during a check of Devils Slide trailhead (6520 ft) at Humber Park this morning. Be prepared for trails above about 7500 ft (lower in places) obscured by moderate to deep snow, and even fresh tracks being erased by spindrift snow in places. While expected to be relatively mild at first with rain above 9000 ft, overall this next sequence of storms may prove to be colder than most of the recent systems. The other bonus was an immaculate set of fresh Mountain Lion tracks in the trail (photos below), with sign that the lion had crossed back-and-forth across Devils Slide in multiple locations further up also. Above seasonal temperatures will continue until Sunday 27th November. A very mild system with rain to 9000 ft elevation (and consequently very icy conditions), and one inch of fresh snow above about 9000 ft elevation, increasing to 1.5 inch above 10,000 ft. These impacts are especially striking in Southern California mountains, where the sun is relatively potent even in midwinter and where even on the coldest days temperatures at mid elevations may fluctuate either side of freezing. I've climbed it many times during winter and have found myself to be the only soul on the mountain. This information will be updated daily over the next week as details are changing significantly with every new forecast. Although I carried snowshoes it would have been risky to try to use them on the icy traverses. While all time and labor is volunteered, the San Jacinto Trail Report uses small private donations to cover costs. This table gives the weather forecast for San Gorgonio at the specific elevation of 3505 m. Our advanced weather models allow us to provide distinct weather . Vehicles not parked in these spaces have been ticketed and/or towed. Remarkably Tropical Storm Kay did not add any new treefall hazards to this trail. Every year seems to have unique challenges and 2023 is already proving to be no exception. Spikes are especially valuable for descending even when they are no necessarily needed for ascending. A double storm has been forecast as a possibility between Monday 28th November and Sunday 4th December. SNOW DEPTHS measured on 6th January 2023 are as follows. My track largely followed the established route of the trail, especially below the Fuller Ridge junction, but higher up the track is much more direct in places. However excellent well-traveled and compacted tracks are now in place for almost all major trails (details below). At San Jacinto Peak (10,810ft/3295m) on Wednesday 15th February 2023 at 1030 the air temperature was 4.9F (-15C), with a windchill temperature of -26.3F (-32C), 65% relative humidity, and a bitter due North wind sustained at 19 mph gusting to 27.7 mph. Fengguikou. San Jacinto Peak (10810 ft): 40-45 inches [2 inches] (45-48 inches), drifted >50 inches in places, Little Round Valley (9800 ft): 45 inches, heavily drifted, measured 23rd January, Wellman Divide (9700 ft): 40 inches [2 inches] (45 inches), Annies Junction/PCT Mile 180.8 (9070 ft): 44 inches [4 inches] (48 inches), Tahquitz Peak (8836 ft): 25 inches, heavily drifted to 40 inches in places, measured 20th January, Seven Pines Trail junction with Deer Springs Trail (8700 ft): 36 inches, measured 23rd January, Long Valley (8600 ft): 22 inches [2 inches] (24 inches), Strawberry Junction/PCT Mile 183 (8100 ft): 15 inches, measured 23rd January, Saddle Junction/PCT Mile 179 (8070 ft): 22 inches [5 inches] (22 inches), Suicide Rock Trail junction with Deer Springs Trail (6950 ft): 3 inches, measured 23rd January, Devils Slide trailhead at Humber Park (6550 ft): 4-5 inches [4 inches] (6 inches) already melting afternoon of 30th, Idyllwild (at 5550 ft): 0-2 inches [3.5 inches] (3-4 inches) rapidly melting afternoon of 30th. WEATHER UPDATE Thursday 26th January 2023: Wild Santa Ana (north-east) winds today in the San Jacinto mountains have included gusts of 69 and 73 mph early this morning at automated stations at each end of Bonita Vista Road. Matthew L. Jones, 15, of San Bernardino tumbled about 400 feet to his death from a steep, burned slope near Devore on Jan. 11. Details of snow depths measured at various locations on the trail system are given at the foot of this posting. Phone is 909-382-2882 or you can request a permit via fax at (909) 794-1125. contact San Bernardino National Forest, San Gorgonio Ranger District, 34701 Mill Creek Rd., Mentone, CA 92359 909-382-2882 or fax (909) 794-1125.Current Trail Conditions. Be aware that firewood can harbor insects and diseases that threaten California's valuable forest resources. Perfect weather, great trail conditions. Spikes are currently recommended throughout the trail system above about 6500 ft. San Jacinto Peak (10810 ft): storm total 12 inches (total depth 17-20 inches), Wellman Divide (9700 ft): 8 inches (total 9 inches), Annies Junction/approx. This is crowdsourced and depends on your contributions. Above Little Round Valley in particular my track down from the Peak is very direct, steep, and would be a challenging ascent. Baldy and Mt. At the Peak on Wednesday 1st February 2023 at 0935 the air temperature was 16.6F (-8C), with a windchill temperature of -8.0F (-22C), 13% relative humidity, and a wild NNE wind sustained at 21 mph gusting to 35.2 mph. PCT Mile 181.8 (9070 ft): 0-1 inch (was 6 inches on 9th November), Deer Springs Trail at top of Marion Mountain Trail (8700 ft): 0-1 inch, Tahquitz Peak (north side trail, 8700 ft): 0-1 inch, Tahquitz Peak (south side trail, 8500-8700 ft): 0 inch, Long Valley (8600 ft): 0-1 inch (was 2-3 inches on 9th November), Strawberry Junction (8100 ft): 0 inch (was approx. http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/CABDF/2015-06-17-1915-Lake-Fire/picts/2015_06_24-16.53.57.084-CDT.pdf, As of July 16th 2015: UPDATE Thursday 5th January 2023: We are just catching the southern edge of the highly-publicized storm currently passing through central California. At least two further minor storm systems are forecast, overnight into Tuesday 3rd January, and then again all day on Thursday 5th January, as described in more detail in the Weather section below. Locations in Pine Cove up to 6500 ft were reporting 3.1 to 3.8 inches of rain by 0500 today. Trails down to 5000 ft elevation currently have patchy shallow snow cover. Even when the gate is closed there are nine legal parking spaces below the locked gate (which still require an Adventure Pass or equivalent to be displayed). The State Park boundary is not marked but is near the site of the old Florians Cache, below Flat Rock. A storm currently predicted for Wednesday 22nd February is tentatively forecast to have near record low (i.e. Dutch Flat, at about 5600 ft elevation between Idyllwild and Pine Cove, recorded 0.86 inch of rain by 1300. Thank you so much for your support. The switchbacks up to Tahquitz Peak average only 20% icy snow cover, but the frequency and length of ice patches increases on the uppermost switchbacks. I kept those on for the rest of the ascent, and almost all of the descent, finally removing them most of the way down Devils Slide Trail. On my hike up to San Jacinto Peak late this morning there was a little drizzle on most of Devils Slide Trail, then an on/off mix of drizzle, freezing rain,, and fine snow in the high country. I barebooted to 9000 ft, then snowshoed the rest of the way through lovely light powder. That said, the going was extremely easy as the rain layer on top of the snow remaining for earlier storms had completely frozen, so I was only having to break trail through an inch or two of fine powder. Steady heavy snow started in Idyllwild at about 0830 but stopped at about 1400. Drive northeast for about 14 miles to the intersection with Valley of the Falls Road. On 24th the road had about 30% patchy ice cover. Does anybody have accurate GPS or other reading of the actual total elevation gain? Given the importance of this trail for the safety of northbound PCT hikers in particular, it is one of several trails adopted by the Trail Report. "US Forest Service officials re-opened portions of the area closed during the Lake Fire today. Personally I would not currently venture above 9000 ft elevation without crampons (always with an ice axe) and snowshoes, due to the current complexity and challenges of the icy snow slopes above that elevation. At the Peak on Monday 21st November 2022 at 1610 the air temperature was 36.5F (3C), with a windchill temperature of 28.0F (-2C), 9% relative humidity, and a steady WSW breeze sustained at 6 mph gusting to 9.2 mph.

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